I'm a Christian, and am not embarrassed to admit it. I'm embarrassed by these assholes, though. (Atheists often think that Christian == fundamentalist, which simply isn't true.)
I'm not sure it's more logical to say that the universe created itself than it was created by someone, but to each his own, I guess.
I actually saw them today at the con, holding up a Jesus Is Lord sign, as a bunch of cosplaying executioners paraded around. I didn't know it was the Westborough asshats, or I'd have had words with them,
Let's say that we accept the theory that something needed to jumpstart the universe, and that thing does not necessarily have to follow the same rules the universe does (and thus doesn't need a creator of it's own).
What reason exactly do we have to believe that thing is the biblical god?
Couldn't it just aswell have been Zeus? Odin?
Are the Muslims right? Jews? Christians? Buddhists? Tao?
The only sane position to take is that they're all wrong, and while there might exist an
by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Monday July 26, 2010 @11:39AM (#33030834)
Wish I had mod points... or that I could log in from work. In either case, I follow the same lines. I believe SOMETHING created the original universe (hell, might not even be this one... could have been a big crunch or two for all we know before this one got going... or some other universe created this one somehow). Don't know what or who did the creating, but the energy came from SOMETHING.
I also believe that once said something got the ball rolling on the universe, it kicked back and let physics and soforth do the rest.
Still doing that? (Score:0, Troll)
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I'm a Christian, and am not embarrassed to admit it. I'm embarrassed by these assholes, though. (Atheists often think that Christian == fundamentalist, which simply isn't true.)
I'm not sure it's more logical to say that the universe created itself than it was created by someone, but to each his own, I guess.
I actually saw them today at the con, holding up a Jesus Is Lord sign, as a bunch of cosplaying executioners paraded around. I didn't know it was the Westborough asshats, or I'd have had words with them,
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The problem with religion is this.
Let's say that we accept the theory that something needed to jumpstart the universe, and that thing does not necessarily have to follow the same rules the universe does (and thus doesn't need a creator of it's own).
What reason exactly do we have to believe that thing is the biblical god?
Couldn't it just aswell have been Zeus? Odin?
Are the Muslims right? Jews? Christians? Buddhists? Tao?
The only sane position to take is that they're all wrong, and while there might exist an
Re:Still doing that? (Score:0)
Wish I had mod points... or that I could log in from work. In either case, I follow the same lines. I believe SOMETHING created the original universe (hell, might not even be this one... could have been a big crunch or two for all we know before this one got going... or some other universe created this one somehow). Don't know what or who did the creating, but the energy came from SOMETHING.
I also believe that once said something got the ball rolling on the universe, it kicked back and let physics and soforth do the rest.